Log for acknowledged/known 1M issues

[ace11]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

The 1M (and 135i) hood is just fine bellow 280 kph V-Max speeds. That is why BMW M will not offer a higher speed limiter aka "driver's package" for the 1M. At least that is the "story" I heard.

No one is really gonna be seeing those kinds of speeds - except for maybe a few car nuts over here. Like me. And my hood has been holding up just fine above 280 kph on my "tuned" 135i.

Hi Dack,

I also am one of those car nuts having the autobahn right around the corner. Ive never heard about this hood issue and now im kinda worried about high speeds. My 1M has a tune and i reach speeds higher than 280kmh... is there a fix for this or could you maybe confirm with your friends friend who works at M GmbH whether this is just another story or really has something to it...?

thx

[Dackelone]

Originally Posted by ace11

Hi Dack,

I also am one of those car nuts having the autobahn right around the corner. Ive never heard about this hood issue and now im kinda worried about high speeds. My 1M has a tune and i reach speeds higher than 280kmh... is there a fix for this or could you maybe confirm with your friends friend who works at M GmbH whether this is just another story or really has something to it...?

thx

IF it really bothers you you could always retrofit hood pins or those flush hood latches like seen on the Safety 1M car.

I have done numerous runs over 280 kph and no problems to date. It really doesn't bother me too much now. I don't think there are many 1er's going over 290 kph. And the car is so bouncy at those speeds... the last thing I am looking at is the hood flopping around. Maybe when the weather gets nicer I'll make a video of the hood peeling up at the edges.


BMW addressed this issue on the F2x/F3x's bc you have to pull the hood cable TWICE in order to open it... and then there is still the hood latch safety there.


Dack

[ace11]

well you're right about paying attention to the hood at those speeds, but the vid idea sounds great... would love to see it once its done...

[Hobbe]

No problem at 250 km/h (on local tracks).
Left to see if it's a problem at 300 km/h (Autobahn), which should be possible in theory since the speed limiter was moved from 250 km/h to 300 km/h.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Hobbe

No problem at 250 km/h (on local tracks).
Left to see if it's a problem at 300 km/h (Autobahn), which should be possible in theory since the speed limiter was moved from 250 km/h to 300 km/h.

Don't exaggerate. You know too that, at those speeds, there is much more at stake than only the physical integrity of the car. No prizes to be won.

[Hobbe]

...as stated: in theory.
Did you miss this part?

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Hobbe

...as stated: in theory.
Did you miss this part?

This picture was released today by the Belgian Road Safety Institute which currently promotes the "Go For Zero" road safety campaign (slogan: "850 killed every year. And you ? Not concerned ?"). This accident happened last Sunday (Feb 10, 2013) on a Belgian highway. 60 year old driver and passenger incurred small injuries. No Photoshop. Pure coincidence. Talking about a copycat...

[ajshanny]

I've read a few of the posts about the stock charge pipe having problems but it isn't clear to me that the folks who have experienced these issues were running a tune or not. It would be good to get some clarification on that issue because it could be that there is no problem when the boost levels are not increased above stock levels. For what it's worth, last summer, when I was at the 2 day M school at the PDC, I asked one of the instructors if the PDC had had any problems with the stock charge pipes on its cars and she said they had not.

[bdaddylo]

Originally Posted by ajshanny

I've read a few of the posts about the stock charge pipe having problems but it isn't clear to me that the folks who have experienced these issues were running a tune or not. It would be good to get some clarification on that issue because it could be that there is no problem when the boost levels are not increased above stock levels. For what it's worth, last summer, when I was at the 2 day M school at the PDC, I asked the head instructor if the PDC had had any problems with the stock charge pipes on its cars and she said they had not.

This issue has been encountered by stock cars to include the 335is.

[bdaddylo]

During the past 3 weeks I've experienced an abnormally longer crank time before the engine fired up. Usually it starts immediately, but I've encountered 5 times where it has taken 3-5 seconds. Has anyone else encountered this and could this be an early sign of a HPFP issue?

[TunedM2C]

That's surely a sign of your HPFP going out. Same symptoms I had on my previous 135i.

[bdaddylo]

My p3 gauge is showing a cylinder 3 misfire fault code, but the engine isn't misfiring. Very odd. I'm going to clear the code and see if it reappears.

[Artemis]

A Belgian 1M owner informed me earlier this week about a series of recurring random errors/glitches which befell his VO 1M.

According to what he described electronics of his 1M went nuts, as if his 1M was bewitched.

His 1M randomly reported all sorts of ill-founded messages on the instrument panel (battery issue warning, seat belt issue warning, airbag issue warning, engine issue warning) but he also witnessed other crazy situations (SAT-NAV cutting out randomly, RPM and speedometer going berserk for no apparent reason [dropping from the actual speed indication to zero indication and back], start/stop button blinking despite the engine being switched off, iDrive button blinking despite the engine being switched off, blinkers not working anymore, windows not fully closing, headlights staying on despite switching off the engine, Park Distance Control no longer operational, etc.).

But his 1M did not detonate... Incidents were usually resolved by resetting the engine (switch off and restart). But issues recurred during subsequent drives.

Quite some erratic incidents happened randomly when idling before traffic-lights during a drive ("Usually the instrument panel lit up like a Christmas tree and SAT-NAV reported all sorts of weird instructions and warnings"). Most absurd incident was a SAT-NAV message ordering him to switch off the engine, remove the key, unbuckle and open and close the driver's door. So he did and no such message re-appeared.

Sounded like a 1M with a "Christine" movie attitude or an ECU on crack, driving the 1M electronics nuts.

Owner is a reliable guy and took it to his BMW dealership. If BMW gets to read this someday: the owner documented the 1M lunatics with pictures as proof "or the BMW dealership would have never believed me".

BMW dealership scratched its head ("never seen or heard this before"). 1M got checked. Dealership concluded that the antics were caused by ..."a Park Distance Control issue, probably related to humidity".

Owner will test his 1M within the forthcoming days and weeks if weird stuff happens again.

Must be the craziest 1M story so far. Unfortunately 100% true.

[bdaddylo]

I cleared the misfire code and it hasn't reappeared yet. My guess is that the codes are being thrown when I encounter my starting issue. I'm going to call my SA tomorrow to ask if I should bring the 1M in for a checkup.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by Artemis

A Belgian 1M owner informed me earlier this week about a series of recurring random errors/glitches which befell his VO 1M.

According to what he described electronics of his 1M went nuts, as if his 1M was bewitched.

His 1M randomly reported all sorts of ill-founded messages on the instrument panel (battery issue warning, seat belt issue warning, airbag issue warning, engine issue warning) but he also witnessed other crazy situations (SAT-NAV cutting out randomly, RPM and speedometer going berserk for no apparent reason [dropping from the actual speed indication to zero indication and back], start/stop button blinking despite the engine being switched off, iDrive button blinking despite the engine being switched off, blinkers not working anymore, windows not fully closing, headlights staying on despite switching off the engine, Park Distance Control no longer operational, etc.).

But his 1M did not detonate... Incidents were usually resolved by resetting the engine (switch off and restart). But issues recurred during subsequent drives.

Quite some erratic incidents happened randomly when idling before traffic-lights during a drive ("Usually the instrument panel lit up like a Christmas tree and SAT-NAV reported all sorts of weird instructions and warnings"). Most absurd incident was a SAT-NAV message ordering him to switch off the engine, remove the key, unbuckle and open and close the driver's door. So he did and no such message re-appeared.

Sounded like a 1M with a "Christine" movie attitude or an ECU on crack, driving the 1M electronics nuts.

Owner is a reliable guy and took it to his BMW dealership. If BMW gets to read this someday: the owner documented the 1M lunatics with pictures as proof "or the BMW dealership would have never believed me".

BMW dealership scratched its head ("never seen or heard this before"). 1M got checked. Dealership concluded that the antics were caused by ..."a Park Distance Control issue, probably related to humidity".

Owner will test his 1M within the forthcoming days and weeks if weird stuff happens again.

Must be the craziest 1M story so far. Unfortunately 100% true.

Vow Artemis, such a list! There is only one reason that could have caused all these together imo: wrong drug the owner took or an overdose!

On a serious note, if ECU gets cooked for any reason anything can happen.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by bdaddylo

I cleared the misfire code and it hasn't reappeared yet. My guess is that the codes are being thrown when I encounter my starting issue. I'm going to call my SA tomorrow to ask if I should bring the 1M in for a checkup.

Your starting issue is very worrying indeed. Does your car have comfort access? Sometimes it can cause starting issues as well, like late start or even total failure, depending on where you are located at that moment. Let's hope it is something like that.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

Vow Artemis, such a list! There is only one reason that could have caused all these together imo: wrong drug the owner took or an overdose!

+ he must be a real pro on using Photoshop for his pictures documenting several issues.

[Artemis]

About the 1M whose electronics went apparently nuts, see also these similar 1er experiences:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516220 (speedometer going jojo)
http://www.bmw-drivers.de/forum-68/e...n-t-43668.html (electronic failure)
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=754683 (PDC and humidity)

Other examples of 1ers infested by electr(on)ic "gremlins":
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442429
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773202
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594848
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=396878

I'll create a separate thread re this issue.

[ozinaldo]

Originally Posted by andra

@Ozinaldo

Sorry, but no drugs involved ....

The story Artemis told is true: I had all this warnings and crazy things happening. My 1M went haywire... Low battery warning, fast discharge of battery, no blinkers, speedometer and RPM meter playing jojo, nav display flikkering and going "black", safetybelt warning, lights that would not dim even with key removed, all warning symbols lightning up, start button flikkering etc etc..

The video of that 130i owner shows, partly, exactly the same behaviour..

No joke, really.

And the culprit was according to my dealer the PDC module. Which FYI I lost without any warning whatsoever...

And it all started after an 2 hours "spirited" (read WOT) drive in the rain. The crazy thing was that I could drive for 1 hour or more without any problem and then suddenly everything went nuts. After stopping and restarting all errors were cleared... And that is why I started to take pictures.... I knew no one would believe it.

Andra
1M VO 2011

@artemis: sorry, but I could not let anyone accuse me of being nuts due to drugs etc. Thanks anyway for sharing my story here. Your English is much more eloquent than mine!

It was just a joke. I am sorry that you got it seriously. I am sure that it really happened the way you described. I believe you guys, peace

[ozinaldo]

How about adding infamous oil control issue? We have been reminded about this nasty problem again thanks to new thread and photos by m3dragon.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ozinaldo

How about adding infamous oil control issue? We have been reminded about this nasty problem again thanks to new thread and photos by m3dragon.

Added issues:

• oil (vapors) entering the intake manifold - carbon build up on intake valves
• heated seats partially malfunctioning

Feel free to suggest more issues or to correct info pertained in the first post of this sticky (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...27&postcount=1).

[ozinaldo]

Artemis, I think we may add the "knock sensor issue" in this Sticky. Here is the ongoing thread that talks most about it:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839266